Curse

Vincaro · Jun 22, 2006, 02:20 PM // 14:20

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

I've helped some lower level and newbie players in Ascalon before at a price. Its not that profitable and is fairly boring.

Must of been real new players, all my characters have been able to solo all the ascalon missions at the lvl's they were ment to be at that point and usually with a collector weapon from ascalon... Although I don't remember my ele soloing... she was my second char and about a week from a year old...

Azmodan · Jun 22, 2006, 02:30 PM // 14:30

I've never charged anyone for my healing. I've often been offered money for my services though. If I need the mission, I refuse the money. If I don't need the mission, then I would consider it.

There was a group doing Thunderhead Keep that paid 2 monks 30k each. That's crazy!

TheSonofDarwin · Jun 22, 2006, 02:31 PM // 14:31

If you need a monk and are unwilling to take the hench (which are perfectly fine) or wait for someone who needs the mission, then well...

I see nothing wrong with people charging for their help. I don't do it only because I hate repeating missions more than I already do on my monk (helping guildies), but there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

It's not the monk putting himself out for hire that thinks he's the most vital part of the group, it's the people hiring him that think that.

There will always be a monk coming along that needs the mission, if you cannot wait for him/her, or won't take the hench, I see no reason why these people who have already done the mission should do it for free. It's not shameful, immoral, despicable - noone has to hire them. It's no different than runners getting paid for their services, imo.

GloryFox · Jun 22, 2006, 02:47 PM // 14:47

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dr_james2k
Mesmer to hire, I pay you 10k for mission, pm

LOL... gotta love the dedicated Mesmer and Assassin players.

In all honesty I've only charged once for monking. Mostly because the player who needed my help was listed in my "Book of Grudges" from a previous mission. He was a jerk but offered 5k plus the first gold that dropped for em. I agreed and helped him through the next mission. Halfway through I almost gave him his money back and left. He did say thank you for staying and said I was the best darn monk he ever stressed out. "O.O" Go figure...

J snukka · Jun 22, 2006, 02:51 PM // 14:51

i dont play monk at all. But i wouldnt mind if a monk asked for gold. As long as it is very reasonable amount. After playing game since Beta testing. I saw the abuse they recieve. Alot of players don't appreciate the class and the players playing them. So i guess they deserve to ask for gold.

Vermilion · Jun 22, 2006, 02:57 PM // 14:57

Meh..as people have said, who cares if monks what some money? It just lets you know who are probably the monks you don't want.

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Originally Posted by TheSonofDarwin

If you need a monk and are unwilling to take the hench (which are perfectly fine) or wait for someone who needs the mission, then well...

While doing THK, I almost considered getting one of the rent-a-monks..because waiting in town for hours just isn't worth it.

When I started my PvE monk I actually wanted to be a rentamonk...if I ever got good, Id do it..

still waiting on that last part.

Tainek · Jun 22, 2006, 03:13 PM // 15:13

I honestly see no problem with it whatsoever

If a player wants to charge for his time, what is the problem?

Is he forcing you?

not last time i checked

it is prehaps a bit tasteless to charge while doing a mission you need, but again it is no crime, your not forced to pay.

what if they have finished all the missions, instead of farming (which helps nobody but themself) they offer themselves to assist with the mission, and they ask a little money for theyre time, is this such a crime?

ive never done it personally, but i have no problem with them doing it.

anybody who makes a huge fuss is just a drama queen, theyre not hurting you in the slightest

Aug · Jun 22, 2006, 04:11 PM // 16:11

I find nothing wrong with rent-a-monks. I'd rather do something else with my time, like PvP or watch a movie, but for those who don't like/want to farm, and like PvE, seems like a win/win for all involved.

It is absurd the number of people who think they need two human monks. One really is sufficient, if the other 7 players bring some support/damage mitigation skills. And if they don't want to do that, kick one of 'em and bring Alesia or Lina, depending on whether your human Monk is a healer or protter.

konohamaru heaven · Jun 22, 2006, 06:28 PM // 18:28

Outside of "Farming" monks are rather rare compared to most of the other professions (poor mesmers). If there are no Monks you could also take along the Monks Little Sibling named the Restoration Ritualist. They actually can Stable heal more efficienty than monks can, but if you expect to go into a place where you can expect quick dps a monk is a must since they are still king/queen of spike healing. There are some Desperate people out there looking for monks at any cost and thats the purpose of these Mercenaries, but this style is also just as legitimate as Running in Tyria is so sadly this will not leave anytime soon.

Also just because a monk hires themselves out does not mean they are not a good monk and will leave quickly. I don't do this, but I dont disagree with what they are doing as in a Sense it is like running a Business.

Astraea Zopyros · Jun 22, 2006, 06:34 PM // 18:34

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Originally Posted by Aug

It is absurd the number of people who think they need two human monks. One really is sufficient, if the other 7 players bring some support/damage mitigation skills. And if they don't want to do that, kick one of 'em and bring Alesia or Lina, depending on whether your human Monk is a healer or protter.

In Prophecies, I'd agree, but in Factions, I just can't keep up with the damage from those huge mobs. I'm sad to have to take up a second slot for another monk, thus reducing the number for other professions, but especially around Afflicted, it's too much. No amount of energy in the world could keep everyone healed, lol. Support and Damage mitigation is definately best, though!

As far as rent-a-monks, personally, I'd sooner run a mission over for free than hire myself out. However, there isn't anything wrong about it. Just the way the world is, sadly.

Silent Kitty · Jun 22, 2006, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Monks work good in pairs. One healer and one protector, though the protector could easily be replaced by a Ritualist, if their spirits didn't suck so much. Casting a spirit with a recharge time of 1 minute, and a very slow casting time just doesn't cut it in most situations.

wsmcasey · Jun 22, 2006, 08:21 PM // 20:21

My first character thru prophecies was a healing monk when Guild Wars first came out. I don't recall taking much crap from people about my abilities to heal them. I suppose I was doing a decent job.

I think hiring out my services would make me feel cheap, and its kind of in poor taste. You can't blame people for doing it though, it's human nature for people to approach a situation and ask themselves "Whats in it for me?". Even people of quality can be and often are peaty and small.

This is still just another form of service in Guild Wars, just like running, uw spider capping, power leveling......etc, etc.

No one is twisting your arm and making you hire a monk, just ignore it and move on.

Goats17 · Jun 22, 2006, 08:32 PM // 20:32

Don't get me started on this, I had a two hour argument in Boreas Seabed.

Priest Of Sin · Jun 22, 2006, 09:37 PM // 21:37

Honestly, when I'm on my MM, I prefer Rits. They bring spirits, but most of the time they bring BR. And I love them for that

On to the point, charging for your services is BS. Unless you're running. If you want compensation for a mission, go elsewhere, go farm or something. If you're going to let me go afk while you do EVERYTHING, I might compensate you A BIT...

I'm thinking 1 gold.

Nivryx · Jun 22, 2006, 09:39 PM // 21:39

I call them Hooker's, I saw one today in Senji's Corner as I was heading out to do a chest run.
"Experienced Healing Monk For Hire - 20k/hour, I am professional."

and then he'd spam his /rank. I mocked him by saying,

"Experienced Chest Runner For Hire 100k/hour, You pay for keys, I keep all drops and profit!"

Sadly, I actually had someone PM me asking me where I was...I assumed they were joking about it as well...never did find out if they were though...

Aug · Jun 22, 2006, 09:45 PM // 21:45

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Originally Posted by Priest Of Sin

Honestly, when I'm on my MM, I prefer Rits. They bring spirits, but most of the time they bring BR. And I love them for that

On to the point, charging for your services is BS. Unless you're running. If you want compensation for a mission, go elsewhere, go farm or something. If you're going to let me go afk while you do EVERYTHING, I might compensate you A BIT...

I'm thinking 1 gold.

Don't hire them, then. If you want to stand at the mission start point spamming "Looking for monk!!" for an indeterminate amount of time instead of hiring the Monk offering his services and leaving immediately, that's your prerogative.

Monks don't typically hire themselves out for missions they've never run before (although I'm sure some do), nor do they do it in zones overflowing with monks. And there is an ignore feature, if their advertising spam is that disturbing to you.

Just seems stupid to me to complain about it.

lishi · Jun 22, 2006, 09:57 PM // 21:57

you can ignore them...

you cant find a monk? take hencies.

i still have to find a mission who cant be done easly with monk hencies.

you dont like hencies? wait

you dont like wait? start a monk

Fate · Jun 22, 2006, 10:17 PM // 22:17

1) There is currently a shortage of monks in GW (especially Tyria)
2) My monk (like many others) beat the game months and months ago.

On any particular day that I hop on I may get bored and decide to make some cash. I can either:

1) Go green farming
2) Play on a different character then my monk...

or I can
3) Go do missions that I've already done.

People desperately want monks, I'm perfectly willing to do Thirsty River again if someone is willing to make it worth my time. In the time that mission takes I could make at least 5k doing other stuff (just the time alone it takes to put together a group I could make at least 10k) so I hardly think it's unreasonable for people to want to be properly compensated for the time, experience and service they are providing.

(on my monk my "Availible for Hire" messages always go in the trade channel)

anonymous · Jun 22, 2006, 10:20 PM // 22:20

Maybe if other classes see a monk charging in their group they should say to that monk, pay me 10k or I will put aggro on you, see how the monk that is charging likes this.

disclaimer: this isnt for all monks, just the ones that charge.

Age · Jun 22, 2006, 10:40 PM // 22:40

Then agian you can get some good Monks that will keep you alive in missions.I don't see anything wrong in charging the party not group itself depending on the mission and yes you can get henchies to do it but but you can't ask them to change thier skill bar.I was offered 2k at the rof mission but turned it down this is in desparation as the Fire Island missions can't be run and a nd nothing helps like a good Monk.